All Things Processing Facilities
In this episode of extrakTALKS, Dr. Jon and Randall discuss everything you need to know about hemp processing facilities; where to start your business, what regulations you need to be aware of, inventory space, building requirements and much, much more. Tune in to find out the best advice to build, or improve, your own hemp facility.
Randall Thompson 00:23
Hey guys, welcome. Thank you for being here. Appreciate you being here. Always, always always. today. We’re talking about facilities
Dr. Jon 00:33
gonna be good.
Randall Thompson 00:34
Like the facilities,
Dr. Jon 00:35
Randall Thompson 00:36
Dr. Jon 00:37
Yeah, small large,
Randall Thompson 00:38
but not the facility.
Dr. Jon 00:39
Not the facilities. But you know, funny.
Randall Thompson 00:42
The facility. Yes. Okay, just checking.
Dr. Jon 00:45
I’m picking it up.
Randall Thompson 00:47
You’re you’re picking up what I’m laying down.
Dr. Jon 00:49
Randall Thompson 00:50
kinda look a little slow on the uptick,
Dr. Jon 00:53
I guess so yeah,
Randall Thompson 00:54
we need more coffee, man.
Dr. Jon 00:56
I haven’t had it yet today.
Randall Thompson 00:58
What huh? Like sacrilegious.
Dr. Jon 01:01
I know it’s terrible.
Randall Thompson 01:02
You need coffee.
Dr. Jon 01:03
Randall Thompson 01:03
we we all need coffee.
Dr. Jon 01:04
Randall Thompson 01:05
Okay. And we all need hemp We all need CBD.
Dr. Jon 01:08
Yesterday, I didn’t have a cup of coffee until must have been like 3pm. And I think it was really bad. I was like, what is happening to me
Randall Thompson 01:17
did you get a headache.?
Dr. Jon 01:19
I had a headache. I was I was, I was like I am I coming down with something. And I remember,
Randall Thompson 01:27
Dr. Jon 01:28
I had my coffee.
Randall Thompson 01:29
I need caffeine! And that’s what I did. I had so wonderful. It was like euphoria. Just like you guys, sets in where you’re here. We’re happy you’re here. If you’re new here. Thank you for joining us. If you are new here, there’s a red button reconnect at the top. It does not take you out. This is one of those simple things. Just reconnect and it’ll refresh your screen right there in place. This is a fun and safe place. Ask your questions, lots of questions. And there will be poll questions set up as we go and Introduce yourself in the chat if you would. Let us know if you’re a farmer grower chemist, investor lawyer we had Mel was on last week.
Dr. Jon 02:08
Yeah, he was
Randall Thompson 02:09
Dr. Jon 02:09
that was fun.
Randall Thompson 02:10
Yeah, he told us he was like gained 40 pounds on the camera.
Dr. Jon 02:14
Randall Thompson 02:16
it whatever. Anyway, thank you for being here. No Holds Barred questions all the time simple or tough. Join the chat and the questions invite your friends. There will be a replay there will be a replay there will be a replay. There will be a replay? That is the biggest question we get.
Dr. Jon 02:30
Randall Thompson 02:30
Dr. Jon 02:32
That’s, that’s pretty good.
Randall Thompson 02:33
most frequent. We have resources live tour CBD jam sessions, advanced extraction guide, mini course libraries on its way. Right. And my gosh, this is
Dr. Jon 02:45
amazing. Next week. I hate it. I
Randall Thompson 02:47
know I waited till the end. Do it. Go. Good. Okay,
Dr. Jon 02:51
so we’ve been working on all these calculators we kind of built it up. And people are really you know, they’ve been oh Can we get the calculators can we get the calculators Keep on I mean, it’s probably a big deal for us. Okay, so, so so. So then there was a, we made all these calculators and I’m like, Ah, you know, I needed to add some things to it. And then we needed to make sure the wording was correct and everything. And so I’ve been
Randall Thompson 03:14
no no wasn’t worried it wasn’t pretty enough for you guys.
Dr. Jon 03:17
I’ve been tinkering. And then we added, like graphs and stuff, so it’ll automatically graph for you. So, next week, we’re going to spend the entire hour You know, like touring our calculators, and that’s gonna be like, that’s gonna be so awesome.
Randall Thompson 03:31
That is awesome. So we’re gonna tour the calculator library next week. It’s the only library you will be so excited to tour. Oh,
Dr. Jon 03:39
yeah, right. Yeah.
Randall Thompson 03:40
Oh my gosh, it’s gonna be awesome. And it does have those funky graphs that he had that kind of do whatever, right?
Dr. Jon 03:46
Yep, yep, yep, yep, we’re gonna show we’re going to go over operating costs we’re going to have like, how to make a tincture calculator how to you know do simple calculations how to estimate, you know yields from your field yields from isolate. yields from everything. So I’m calling by Yeah, \
Randall Thompson 04:02
this has been good. It’ll be so we’ll be able to exhale next next time, calculator libraries galore. We’re doing it. We’re Gone.
Dr. Jon 04:11
Yeah, yeah, it’s gonna be it’s gonna be fun.
Randall Thompson 04:13
Dr. Jon 04:14
Oh, they send the word out too, because anybody, you know, like we get on average, we get, you know, 50 to 60 people on here, you know, that are that are watching at any given time. And we get a lot of new people in so there’s like, some, sometimes people you know, they’ll, you know, spread the word anyway. Yeah, perfect. Well, we’ll put it out on Instagram right, Jared.
Randall Thompson 04:36
Bring people and and there’s and there’s winners. Winner winner chicken dinner. This week’s winner is Dee Parker in Kentucky. Congratulations Dee won a Holus CBD prize pack of roll on muscle soother and some CBD oil body lotion.
Dr. Jon 04:52
What was that?
Randall Thompson 04:53
Dr. Jon 04:54
Randall Thompson 04:54
Dr. Jon 04:55
Randall Thompson 04:56
not just an Initial D .
Dr. Jon 04:57
Randall Thompson 04:58
Parker. Right. That’s pretty awesome. And Aaron, I agree with you the Library of Congress rocks. Totally. I love it. And I love I’m a library hound. Right.
Dr. Jon 05:07
I like the smell of old books.
Randall Thompson 05:09
And you know when I do too,
Dr. Jon 05:11
yeah, they’re pretty. The older they are the better
Randall Thompson 05:13
and unexploded bombs apparently
Dr. Jon 05:15
some of those books that were the pages are actually kind of like, you know, on the edges there.
Randall Thompson 05:19
Oh, yes. Oh, they don’t they don’t match.
Dr. Jon 05:22
Yeah. In fact, we should have a book episode. That would be totally off topic but it would be fun
Randall Thompson 05:28
the most asked question is what book did you refer to what book did what was that resources? So we’re trying to get those up when we get those going. So yes, libraries rock. And every time I think about that, I think of The Music Man.
Dr. Jon 05:42
The Music Man?
Randall Thompson 05:42
Yeah, Marian, the librarian.
Dr. Jon 05:44
Oh, yeah. Okay,
Randall Thompson 05:46
I have to I have to that was like a dismissive
Dr. Jon 05:48
No, no, I have to feign like, Oh, I know what he’s talking about. Should I know what he’s talking about?
Randall Thompson 05:55
No, I mean, if you’re out there and you know the music, man, just start singing. Oh, sing along. We’ll do it. Sing along karaoke, karaoke okay?
Dr. Jon 06:02
Is The Music Man related to the muffin man? Because I know that one.
Randall Thompson 06:05
No. no, no, no, Okay, all right, there’s trouble right here in river city.
Dr. Jon 06:13
Randall Thompson 06:14
that starts with T that rhymes with peanuts.
Dr. Jon 06:17
All right, all right.
Randall Thompson 06:18
Okay, so I go, I can just go on this is it’s fun stuff. Okay, thank you for being here. We will get to something relevant in a moment. Is that cool? Yeah, exactly. Okay. Now in this episode, we’re talking about facilities.
Dr. Jon 06:35
It’s gonna be fun.
Randall Thompson 06:35
Okay, we’re gonna make sure that your hemp hemp processing facility and on my sheet of paper it does say hemp hemp.
Dr. Jon 06:42
Let me see. Oh, yeah does
Randall Thompson 06:46
so we emphasize must have emphasized hemp.
Dr. Jon 06:48
Yes, it’s twice
Randall Thompson 06:50
it’s twice hemp, hemp. Okay? hemp hemp processing facilities a is proportioned properly and everything right?
Dr. Jon 06:57
Randall Thompson 06:58
Okay, so what is the biggest question? Where do I put my facility? Yeah, Where? In a field. And in the middle of a city?
Dr. Jon 07:07
Yeah. Preferably away away from everybody. Yeah. Okay, so there is there is such a thing as you know, selecting your site or the area of where you’re going to process to have beneficial aspects in the big benefit really comes in your permitting environment. And okay, so suppose I want to have a facility and I want to locate it in, say, downtown Los Angeles. We know a little bit about that. Yeah. I remember that. You see that explosion that happened?
Randall Thompson 07:40
Dr. Jon 07:41
Oh my gosh.
Randall Thompson 07:42
Dr. Jon 07:42
Yikes. Oh, by the way, that would never happen with co2. Just so you guys know, there’s not even a risk, in fact that if the co2 had leaked out, it would have put the fire out. So that’s that’s such a
Randall Thompson 07:54
good note to self,
Dr. Jon 07:55
yeah note to self. Okay, so where do you want to place your facility well i, i think that it’s, it’s in general, if you have, the more urban area that you’re going to be in, the more requirements are going to be placed on you and enforced in your facility, which is going to drive up your facility costs. And it’s also going to drive up your, your engineering, it’s gonna drive up your architectural, you know, I’ve mentioned this before that, you know, as you increase the amount of solvents that you have in your facility, you you know, your, your occupation basically changes, okay. And what that means is that you have to add more infrastructure items to your, to your facility. So, it’s really good if you can, first of all limit the solvents that are in your facility. And then second of all, locate your facility in a suburban area or an industrial park, possibly even preferably, where you don’t have, for example, neighbors or adjoining neighbors, because those always create some sort of, you know, complication. So the You always want to try to reduce the complication you can you can save hundreds of thousands of dollars just by locating in an area that is not hyper active when it comes to applying every every possible requirement known to man, you know and you know like for the other thing that would really kind of help you a lot as if you hired an engineering firm that didn’t also build refineries, okay? Because, you know, what, do you have 30 milliliters of everclear in your bar, okay, this is an FBA Class A class one room with a C, one D two, D one, they’ll start flipping off all of the beautiful specifications and everything for that. Because that’s what engineers do.
Randall Thompson 09:41
Is that before after we flip them on,
Dr. Jon 09:43
I don’t know I think I think that when we flip them off after
Randall Thompson 09:46
Yeah, okay. Just checking
Dr. Jon 09:48
Yeah, but anyway, anyway, I just think that it’s it’s really important in terms of location that you find some, some location that is in a in a good permitting environment. The other thing that you need to think About is things like turnaround and parking and making sure that you have turnarounds for your semi trucks. Oh, yeah. You know, because like
Randall Thompson 10:07
you need room
Dr. Jon 10:08
You need room. Yeah, yeah. And if you don’t have a place that a semi truck can get in, or if the dock height is not like a standard dock height, like, if you have a half dock height, I can tell you that produces so much problems like ah, like you are going to rue the day you you had that, you know, half dock height in. So if you have a good dock docking system that that’s really important. You have to have a place where your semis can get in so that those are all location and site specific things. The other the other thing that you really got to think about with site and where it’s located is Do you have any covenants and restrictions associated with the site that you’re on?
Randall Thompson 10:46
Dr. Jon 10:47
So that really is okay. If you have a building or if you have if you’re renting or leasing a space, and they’re there in order for the building to have gone up in that location. They have signed or they have signed some sort of site, or restriction or covenant with the city or county or municipality that it’s in. And sometimes those can be really difficult to deal with because, okay, you need to put in your utilities. Oh, well, you can’t have your, you can’t have your transformer pot on this side of the building. So you have to go to the other side of the building, which triples all the wire that you have to use. So things like, Yeah, well, okay, well, there’s no place for the switch gear over there. So that’s not going to really work for with co2. Typically, you want to buy, you know, like bulk systems and install bulk systems because it’s super cheap. If you do that. In sometimes there’s requirements like seismic requirements, or those are, those are requirements for installation, but even more so than that, where it’s located like, okay, it can’t be on one side of the building because they don’t want to look want to look bad, okay, there are there are some times you can talk to the city council, you can do petitions and things like that all of that is like timing, and then get variances like, okay, we’ll, we’ll put up a tree, you know, we’ll put up five trees around there. And you know, but sometimes you don’t know about those requirements. If you don’t know about them ahead of time, you kind of might not, you might come up with a different answers to your location.
Randall Thompson 12:20
Dr. Jon 12:20
So that’s kind of a kind of a just a general.
Randall Thompson 12:23
I think. That’s, that’s the first that’s where everything starts. Yeah, where you’re located. I think that that’s a good point, you know, locating rural or suburban. is huge. Making sure that you’re in a place that is not over cumbersome with permitting requirements, right, because we’ve run into so many places where all of a sudden the engineers and the consultants get involved and yeah, oh my gosh,
Dr. Jon 12:48
yeah. Basically, they’re what their job is, is they’re there to make sure that you’re aware of every requirement under the sun. Every requirement that they put on your facility is going to be You know, anywhere from 25 to $100,000, in probably even more than that, so, so Okay, you see the big list of requirements, it’s not that you shouldn’t be aware, but in a lot of jurisdictions, they just, they’re not even they don’t, they’re not even they don’t care about it.
Randall Thompson 13:14
It’s not relevant to that,
Dr. Jon 13:16
to that community, right. So and so you would get a, you know, if you were in downtown Los Angeles or downtown San Diego, Downtown Houston, or in a very, very, you know, close, close to any other major metropolitan city. Of course, there’s a lot of people there and, you know, the inspectors have they’re enforcing more of the requirements are normal. So
Randall Thompson 13:39
yeah, the other thing is we’re talking about the the location, the biggest question I have is, and you mentioned this about power and where it’s located with regard to the facility, but the biggest question we get is, what kind of power do we need? Well, how much? What do we need?
Dr. Jon 13:56
Right? Well, that really depends on on what you You’re trying to do, okay. So, you know, if you want to start off with just like processing, okay, like a processing facility, and what you want to do is you want to have like a drying facility and you want to Shuck and buck stuff. And then you want to prepare it for people to sell out, you know that a lot of people do that they like create drying facilities and, and things like that, that’s really actually a really great place to start because that solves a problem that the farmer has. They can buy like the big equipment and everything but sometimes they just want to deliver like whole plants, and then the whole and then and then those whole that shucknbuck material which is basically all the stems and sticks have been removed. And just the flowers in the bag, it’s all ground up all dried here. Here you go, ready to go. A lot of people like to have just like pre processing business.
Randall Thompson 14:48
Dr. Jon 14:49
And typically you need a warehouse that is, in that case is, highly, like humidity controlled, okay. And you know, obviously that it’s really hard to dry things You have in a very humid environment. So you want to make sure you have some dehumidification if you’re in a very humid environment. It also depends on what time of the year so a lot of people are doing this processing, say in October, November, December where it you know, basically the moisture goes out of the air because it’s so it’s cooler that that’s kind of maybe you don’t need to have that. And so, yeah, I think so the question about how much power you have really is driven by what the scale of your facility is going to be? Right. So you are in? That’s really where you really need to have a planning session associated with a scaled up plan. Sure. Okay, that does that make sense? So, what you’re trying to do is say, Okay, well look, in my mind’s eye, I feel that we’re going to start off with, say, 500 pounds a day, okay? And then we’re going to work our way up over the next couple years, or three years to say a ton a day or two, two tonnes a day or whatever you got. What you do then is you kind of take that three year picture and you calculate how big a facility you need for that three year picture. Or if you’re if your horizon is five years on your business plan, fine, then set that goal. And then back calculate how much power you’re going to need, how many units you’re going to create, you know what your products are going to be and create your forecast, basically business forecast off of that, that is going to basically drive the requirements for your facility. So just some rules of thumb we had let me see here we started off in our building, we have 80,000 square feet here we had 750 KVA. And we had to upgrade our power we we put in another I think 2000 kV a in here, just because we didn’t want to do it again, in our horizon. We kind of looked at our horizon, you know, five years from now said, Okay, well, we’re gonna want to be, you know, running at basically, you know, 10 tonnes a day. And you know, we don’t actually run five times a day every day. So we run much less than that. Every Day, and we have a 510 per day capacity. So right now we’re tooled up in terms of our power and electricity for that. And then and then wewe built for the bigger,
Randall Thompson 17:10
you’ve got expansion built in,
Dr. Jon 17:11
got expansion built in, because you know, to go back and do you know, put that all in to dig the holes to, you know, take the power in from the street and all that stuff. It’s expensive.
Randall Thompson 17:20
It’s very expensive.
Dr. Jon 17:22
Speaking of that with site location, that’s something you need to think about, inspect your power. Okay, find out where it is, and then find out if you needed to upgrade that power. Would you need to dig up a parking lot? Yeah, that’s a quick question. Because I’ve actually seen that happen. They had to dig up the whole parking lot going across it, it cost them a small fortune, just to just just to get their power extended up.
Randall Thompson 17:46
Dr. Jon 17:46
and it was a big deal. And, and sometimes the power is, so you really need to go inspect it. So there’s a couple things you have your outside transformer. You can go look at the nameplate on it and says it’ll say You know, usually it’s stamped on there or whatever, you know, in kVA is the amount, you know, that’s kilo volts amps. So volts times amps equals watts. If you calculate the so that’s what it’s saying it’s it’s 750 kilowatts worth of electricity. So, and then that from the pot. It’s wired to what they call switch gear, which is on the inside, it’s just a big control panel for your main power and your entire loop. Okay, so it usually it has a big handle on it, that’s power on power off, you can turn the entire facility off with just one, one switch. And then from there, all of the sub panels are powered, like you’ll have a 400 amp panel, going to one process and then a 200 amp panel. You want to try to reduce the number of sub panels that you have because that’s wire and then you know, and you know, it costs a lot to put it on hold some panels,
Randall Thompson 18:57
okay, it doesn’t look as nice
Dr. Jon 18:59
right? And then also you need to have transformers. So typically that pot is coming in at, say 480 volts, for example, there’s a couple different phases of types of power, you got your delta phase and your y phase, and that’ll give you different voltages. Okay, this is really sweet stuff that you got to know. I mean, you have to know this. If it’s
Randall Thompson 19:18
Did you see my eyes glazing over?
Dr. Jon 19:20
I did look at him. Look at this guy. He’s laughing. Okay, we’re getting too geeky. I get it. Okay, so no, no talking about delta and Y phase? This is just suffice it to say, if I just say because that will you know, if you want 208 power in your facility, typically it’s run on 208 volts. Okay. You know, that’ll probably I think that’s a Delta phase. And, yeah, you’re going to need to have you know, it’ll come in at 480 volts needs to be transformed down to like, so that that’s the fundamentals of power, but you really need to understand what we can do and help you with, obviously, is it Create a design so that you’ll know how much you’re going to need in a couple years. And make sure that you have a crawl, walk run strategy on your power related to that. And that goes also for your facility footprint, where you need your utilities, all that stuff. In really what you’re doing is you’re creating multiple design plans, multiple layouts, and then you’re creating that five year layout basically, and then you’re then you’re, you’re basically scaling it back to the first year. So that’s the crawl walk run strategy.
Randall Thompson 20:32
And, you know, these are primarily for processing facilities that we’re talking about, but there’s there’s different power requirements for the farmer going out there. Right. Michael asked a question earlier, you know, as he’s setting up his facility for that is, you know, is a startup situation right at, you know, at the farm shucknbuck and a grinder but you would also need a dryer also. Yeah,
Dr. Jon 21:00
yeah, yeah. So well, you could do like a lot of people hang in there their plants if you have a barn, and you know, if you wait till October, you can look at the dewpoint calculations and things like that water just drops out of the air and you should be able to hang your your plants.Yeah. And they’ll they’ll go dry
Randall Thompson 21:18
at harvest and it should go
Dr. Jon 21:19
Yeah, it’ll go down to 10%. Yeah, moisture content in your plant 10 to 15%, which is sufficient to, you know, really keep the bugs from growing. Okay. If you don’t do that, if you don’t try your plant, obviously, you’re going to get, you know, greater, greater problems with microbials and things like that.
Randall Thompson 21:40
Well, and it costs more to process.
Dr. Jon 21:41
Yeah, Yeah, it does.
Randall Thompson 21:42
It does because it’s heavier, because it’s, it’s by by poundage, a couple of other questions that have come in. That may not be completely related. We do have packagers here. Jeremiah talked about, you know, packaging. Yeah, co packing powders, oils and things. So that’s on the other end.
Dr. Jon 22:03
Yeah, I think because we should probably go over, you know, all the details of that maybe we can do some demonstrations and things.
Randall Thompson 22:10
Great. So Jeremiah will hit you up another time. But there are other requirements and lines and how you’re doing that and what we’re doing here, as well for that. And then, you know, with we are going to be talking Robert about storage as well in a moment, but I want to I want to jump back to properly proportioning the facility and when you’re for receiving for all of those things, right, right now,
Dr. Jon 22:35
yeah. So you just want to make sure that you you have that that scale up plan, that you have the discussion, you know, the plan is planning is important and most important, the plan is going to change, but the planning aspect of it is Oh, now I now that I’ve scaled this up in my mind, and we’re now looking at that larger facility. Now we can see problems occurring. So it’s kind of a foresight thing, and you need someone there who’s who’s basically helped it done that before. So that they’re, you know, taking you through here are all the issues associated with that, let’s talk about it. At the very minimum, you’re going to become aware of what’s required for the next steps. And I think that that is the key benefit of that exercises. You know, okay, here’s your plan. Here’s how many people you’re going to need. But also here’s my power. here’s, here’s the space. Here’s the footprint that I’m going to need. Yeah. So things along those lines.
Randall Thompson 23:36
Yeah, they’re, I think that that’s, that’s critical. When you’re bringing product in to a facility, are you worried about different locations or cross contamination or
Dr. Jon 23:51
Okay, so a couple different things on that. Imagine in your mind’s eye a box in it’s got a split down the center, okay? One side of the box. should be related to, you know, kind of the kind of the grinding or dusty part of it or where all the biomass is. And the other side of the building should be the oil facing side of it, okay? You kind of want to keep the like H-VAC pressure, okay, you want to keep H-VAC pressure negative on that kind of the hemp process hemp processing or the Hemp biomass side versus the oil side so that there’s not for example, you know, dust particles migrating into your packaging facility into your extraction oil, you know, where you’re dealing with oils, you just want to try to make sure that it’s negative. So that’s the first rule of thumb related to that and you really should, you know, because if you’re doing total processing, it’s really important also because some of the farmers are going to bring in their stuff and they hadn’t dried it properly and you get to the Middle of the bag and it has, you know, mold or something like that. And, and that bad
Randall Thompson 25:05
Dr. Jon 25:06
Yeah, so you want to make sure that, you know, there isn’t the contamination of spores or anything that would migrate it from one side of the building to the other. So the raw, the raw materials really need to be separated. Now, the FDA has rules about, you know, types of separation, okay. And so one of the things that we have seen people do in the past is they have put up like curtains like industrial curtains, basically, and they’re a thick rubber, and they go from floor to ceiling and all of that the FDA does not allow you to do that if you want to have an FDA compliant facility. However, if your goal at the very beginning is basically Okay, we’re not going to put up the wall, but we’re going to we’re gonna put up the wall at a future date when we become FDA compliant. You can start with a curtain, because the state isn’t going to say yes or no to that, right? That’s what they what they what they are going to say. I think that, you know, the the principles of separation of raw materials from, you know, finished oils, that’s a really good principle to keep in mind. And when you design your facility, you want to make sure that you know, all of the relative H-VAC pressures from the hallway to each of the rooms are all designed properly, so that you have, you know, where all the air is going. So, you know, it’s dumping into a hallway that has negative pressure, and that’s exhausted out, you know, so when you’re talking about, you know, your facilities and separation, that that’s the key thing to remember really is keep your dusty in your bio mess stuff apart, or in a different building, even then, then your processing facility.
Randall Thompson 26:58
Sure, and I think that that’s As you’re going walking through the facility when you’re in the grinding area, I mean, it’s dusty. You want to where, you know, you really need to be gowned. Gowned and Bound. Right. And and, you know, and social distancing back there is not adequate.
Dr. Jon 27:16
No, I guess not.
Randall Thompson 27:18
So when we’re when we’re quarantining product, we want to make sure that it’s, it’s adequately separated. Right? And is there additional separation? Now We’re talking about spores and molds and different things, but also, you know, we we’ve seen some product come in that has some significant pesticide in it.
Dr. Jon 27:38
Yeah. So let’s talk about the receiving process or foul. That’s how that’s done. Okay? If you are a processor of hemp that you’re all you’re doing is you’re drying and stuff like that. I think that you just have to make sure that you’re not getting cross contamination from, you know, by blending or anything like that. So that having been said when you do a receiving process usually it’ll come in and super sacks and what happens is typically your processes and procedures will then kick in. Okay so what do we do now with this material? Well first of all you match the paperwork that came with the material with the license make sure that they have a license all the paperwork for the C of A is associated with it, their their certificates of analysis, they have all that and that paperwork packet goes to Q&A when it hits the dock typically, it’s immediately quarantined it’s got a quarantine designation on it sure, which means that it’s you can’t use it in production until quality assurance says, Hey, this meets the specifications. It’s past incoming inspection, which is usually there’s a quality control step where they sample from the different bags randomly or according to their sampling plan. There’s no and then they they send those off to the laboratory to verify what the measure what the C of A says. And I think that that is that is a very important step. You can’t skip it. Okay? If you can’t skip it because the C of As that come in with the materials may not be applicable. They may not match what your results are. And if it just just for various reasons, who knows why, you know, sometimes in the truck as it’s coming your to your facility can all of a sudden become pesticide ridden? or all of a sudden sprout solvents in them or things like that, you know, just from nothing magic, actually, hello? nothing, absolutely nothing. It’s just in there.
Randall Thompson 29:47
It just happened. Nobody knew why
Dr. Jon 29:48
nobody knows why. Yeah. And so you want to make sure that you’re you’re not receiving those items into your facility and then contaminating everything. You know, because what happens is You contaminate you know, either your grinder can get contaminated even though you do washes in between. So it’s really important that you have specifications, specifications. And that goes back to contracting, as we talked about last week, right? So in your contract, okay shall be pesticide free. If it’s organic, you have to send us the organic label certification. If you’re from a hemp farm, by the way, you need to send us your hemp certificate. Okay, so those are all kind of that’s good general things. Okay, a little off topic. No, no, but but
Randall Thompson 30:28
but it’s good because we’re allocating certain, you know, parts of the facility for different rooms were there. And in each of these, like either, whether it’s receiving, whether it’s in the labs, whether it’s, you know, with our solvents that we’re using, or what have you, are their occupancy requirements that we would have for the facility that we have to make sure we pay attention to,
Dr. Jon 30:55
right okay, so this is where, okay, let me kind of just go Get into this now on occupancy and classifications and building types and all of that, okay? So I’m going to go start a hemp processing facility, and I’m going to create oils and I’m going to make a brand and I’m going to make lots of money. That’s, that’s the, that’s the promised land that we are all driving for. And, and so so what are we going to do? We’re going to go look for Billy, we’re gonna look for a site that’s outside of the city. Hopefully, that is, you know, that’s not in a super dense population area, that’s that that’s going to be a lower cost area to get to get your get your place done by the way, as parenthetical on that. You got to make sure that you’re not too rural to the point where you can’t get labor to come in and help you. Yes, so that’s the other thing if there’s a good labor base, so so that that’s something to think about. So then, now you have a building right? Now if your building is all of wood structure with a wood, you know, wood framed wood you know, roof on it And everything, you’re you’re kind of really talking about a very expensive endeavor because to get compliancy for the co2, it’s not a problem. But as soon as you add any kind of ethanol processing in your facility, or even ethanol or any solvents, even for cleaning, you know, that is where when some of these requirements start to kick in, and basically, so there’s different building types, okay? And so there’s type one, there’s type two, there’s type three, and then there’s different classifications type one, one, type one, two, type one three, you can imagine just go find your building what what you want to have is if I if I had my druthers and I had to pick I mean, it should be some sort of industrial building with non combustible materials to make it so the ceilings should be non combustible preferably, it should, you know, the, the walls if it’s a steel building, that’s the best right? And the walls you know, should not have, you know, combustable nature to them right so that’s really what you’re looking for, you’re not looking for a wood building because you’re gonna need to have, you’re gonna need to do a lot to it to make it so you might as well just get that so and then you can have a wood building that’s a what’s called just a general Industrial Light light industrial occupancy. So F one f two occupancy f two is occupancy is where you would have some hazards in but not a lot of hazard. So, and there’s requirements for these that are all written down in the international building code which are basically adopted in various forms all across the United States. Then you have, so you have f1 f2, occupancy and then you have high hazard occupancy, which is h one, h two, H three. Okay. So, so we have a building type, separate from occupancy.
Randall Thompson 33:51
Dr. Jon 33:52
Okay. So, and the amount of solvents that you can have in your building and every processing laboratory Every processing facility is going to require solvents of some kind, small amounts, you know, so or even larger amounts as you increase the amount of solvents your occupancy changes from, say an f2 to an h2, which drives up your costs, okay. And then in then it’s kind of a multi stage calculation that if sometimes some buildings as as as they are built are not even possible to have an H occupancy. Okay, solet me see here. So, yeah, did that make sense?
Randall Thompson 34:34
Dr. Jon 34:35
I see your eyes glazing over.
Randall Thompson 34:37
No, I’m good. Actually, I was chuckling at Jeremiah’s cabin. He said you can’t be too rural. He says just add an RV park.
Dr. Jon 34:45
Randall Thompson 34:46
I thought that was funny. So yes, that was me. Just chuckling inside my head.
Dr. Jon 34:53
No, no, no problem
Randall Thompson 34:54
no, I think that’s good. Okay, so now, let’s take that to the next level. Because one of the things that we see when you’re setting up an isolate lab for example. Yeah, the biggest question that we have there is, do I need C1D2? And what does C1D2 mean?
Dr. Jon 35:09
Yeah. Okay. So C1D2 is a electrical classification for a room, okay for a space and there are rules associated with the equipment and the amount of solvents that you can have in that room.
Randall Thompson 35:20
Dr. Jon 35:21
okay. And in the type of solvent really drives the amount of solvent that you have in open use and enclosed use and storage amounts, really will drive. You know, the requirements for that room.
Randall Thompson 35:34
Dr. Jon 35:34
so if you’re going to have certain types of solvents, like for example, butane, you’re going to have to have a C1D1 room because it’s an explosive type of material. If you have if you have a different type of solvent like ethanol, the requirements for that room are a little less that you need to C1D2 room
Randall Thompson 35:52
Dr. Jon 35:52
because if there’s a leak or something like that, it’s not necessarily going to explode, you know, or doesn’t have a higher hazard as of explosion. As say like butane does,
Randall Thompson 36:01
okay, so and what type of designation Do you need for co2?
Dr. Jon 36:05
You don’t, which is really great.
Randall Thompson 36:07
that is great!
Dr. Jon 36:07
So yeah, for co2, you can have an infinite amount. I know that’s not possible. But you can have an unlimited amount of co2 in your facility and still maintain whatever building type you have. And then you can also maintain whatever occupancy that you’re in.
Randall Thompson 36:24
Dr. Jon 36:24
so the only thing you need to think about is how much ethanol you need around for winterization. Okay, right. And, you know, if you’re going to do that process, or you’re just going to use your co2 extractor to winterize. That’d be another way to do it.
Randall Thompson 36:37
So let’s assume we’ve got we just have a barrel 55 gallon drum of ethanol, right? Gotcha. Okay, well and and that’s good. And you mentioned storing the solvent Yeah, is there some special thing you have to do to store the solvent?
Dr. Jon 36:41
So there are requirements for storage, and then you have to define what the open use is and what the closed use is for each one of those buildings, okay. And the great thing about this as we do this type of analysis for you, we have fire inspectors on staff and if fire hazard analysis, so what we We’ll do for you is we’ll take the, your, your footprint, and we’ll say, Okay, look here is how much you’re going to have here in this storage control area, here’s how much you’re going to have an open use here. And that will drive the requirements for the occupancy and it’ll drive the requirements for you know, what, how much you can have in the facility and also the occupation the requirements also for the room whether it needs to be C1D2 or C1D1 or whatever. Yeah, I mean, there are requirements like it okay. So, there are requirements for like, how much you can store per control area, you can have a maximum of three control areas per occupancy.
Randall Thompson 37:47
Okay, so if I got a 55 gallon drum of ethanol I know it’s in a specified control
Dr. Jon 37:51
240 gallons is the number if you have a type to build, to, to building which is a metal building with with an F2 occupancy,
Randall Thompson 38:00
Dr. Jon 38:02
yeah okay so 240 gallons in storage and then that’s per control area you can have up to three control areas
Randall Thompson 38:08
okay and then And that applies to the same thing like with an isolate lab you need pentane for example, right? Let’s say 20 liters
Dr. Jon 38:15
Yeah. So pentane is a different class of solvent. So that has a has a much higher vapor pressure which means that other requirements are more stringent for pentane.
Randall Thompson 38:26
Dr. Jon 38:26
So you would have to do certain you have to you know the room that you want to design in that case would you you wouldn’t want to have electrical power in there yet every all your motors and everything would have would want to be air motor, you want to have air motors, you want to have like spark proof, you know, exhaust ventilation in there. Your floors should have a floor covering that is also like spark proof and, you know, things like that and just everything grounded. Okay. So those are some of the things that come into the engineering of it. You know, a lot of people just buy like hoods, walk in hoods, and They do it in the walk in hood, it kind of is a nice way to do that, like even a painter hood, like, okay, because those are kind of already classified. So you can do them inside of there, then you just need to exhaust that. And you can calculate what your exhaust CFM has to be based on how much you have in there. So then you you come up with your inventory, you tell say, Hey, here’s how much we’re going to have in here. Here’s our exhaust plan. And then here’s our plan for measuring how much pentane is in the air. And you hand that over to your fire inspector.
Randall Thompson 39:34
Dr. Jon 39:34
And also your insurance company. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because they’re gonna ask right away, right.
Randall Thompson 39:39
Oh, my gosh, that’s and and, you know, you want to make sure just like, give them all of the right information. But don’t ask what their requirements are.
Dr. Jon 39:51
Randall Thompson 39:51
Dr. Jon 39:52
Yeah, kind of Yeah.
Randall Thompson 39:53
I mean, that you you want to be aware of what their requirements are. But if you chase down all of these specifications, Like you mentioned earlier, if I’m in a refinery facility or park that has all these refineries Well, you know, the inspectors are going to be tuned to having those types of parameters and requirements. So you might be subject to some of those just because of the chosen group. That’s there. Right? The inspectors, right. So you don’t want that? Right. I would think, yeah, but so you don’t go to them and say, hey, what, what do I need, because all of a sudden, they’re going to give you a laundry list, right? But if you just do it, and you say, Alright, this is what I know I need, then they’re going to come and inspect. And if you’re, if you meet it, you’re good if you need to make some adjustments and make adjustments, right, but you’re at least 99% or 95%, or maybe 80%. I don’t know what Yeah, you’re getting that it’s an art.
Dr. Jon 40:50
Yeah, right. So Well, I think it’s, yeah, it’s essentially a it is a it really is a kind of A negotiation that takes place.
Randall Thompson 41:01
Dr. Jon 41:02
And, you know, I think that they’re gonna come in, they’re gonna they’re gonna, you know, tell you what their current, you know, they’re going to be focusing on what they’re currently seeing elsewhere, right. So, you know, in, there’ll be it doesn’t mean that the rest of the code doesn’t apply, but they just happen to be jazzed about that particular item. So they might get, they might go and deep on one particular area, they’re like, are they going in deep on this particular? Well, because this guy’s been singing everybody, you know, from a permitting standpoint, or from an inspection standpoint, you know, for the last year, that’s where he got like, this is where he he’s finding pager. He’s finding paydirt there. So job security, yeah, job security, right. So
Randall Thompson 41:44
and they we need that. Right? Yeah. So it’s not where I’m not making fun of the guys doing that. What I’m saying is, you’ve just there you know, when you get something there, you just have to be aware of what they’re what they’re drilling down to. Right, right. And then you got to know how to address it. Right? Make sure you got people like us who can come alongside you. And help.
Dr. Jon 42:04
Right. Yeah. And addressing it in terms of that also, you want to, you almost want to have something that they can address that’s easily fixable. I mean, you know, for me, you talk to any of the engineers who worked on trying to get, you know, their facilities, you know, established. You know, sometimes maybe you kind of, you know, point out the easy things and now, okay, they got to have something to put in their report.
Randall Thompson 42:30
And that’s cool. Okay, so I have been asking questions, and thank you for all of your questions that are coming in. We’re still we’re still here for a while. So keep the questions coming in. These are great. I know, we’ve bounced around a bit. And I know that there’s probably no rhyme or reason on the flow. So that’s not bad. And so, so Dr. Jon, is there anything that we missed that you want to really cover or that that you want to come back to? I’ve got other questions, but I wanted to made sure that I didn’t derail you completely.
Dr. Jon 43:03
Randall Thompson 43:03
And Jeremiah said, you’re sorry for disrupting earlier said yet? No, that’s my job. I disrupt everything all the time. You’re in good company
Dr. Jon 43:12
No It’s all good. Okay.
Randall Thompson 43:13
All right. Good. So your Is there anything specifically you want to bring up that or visit back? Or do you want me to start asking Marco no
Dr. Jon 43:20
Ask questions. Yeah, we’ll just keep going through through them. Sure.
Randall Thompson 43:24
Okay. So when we’re talking, I mean, a lot of the facility, okay, that we’re doing is about talking about the business side of it. We’re talking about flow. Yep. And you really want good flow like we started, and then we start, we grew fast. So you know, there are a couple of things that I think are a little out of place in ours because we didn’t have the dirt because we go over here, and then we get to go back here. Yeah. So there’s a little bit of things that are out of order. Yes. But part of that too, is as you said, you want to keep the grinding and the dust over here. And so you’ve got to jump Is there anything in the flow that you want to offer? Whether that’s from the farm, whether that’s from the processing receiving all the way to the end product? Or or even going from there to packaging?
Dr. Jon 44:14
Well, I, you know, I think that in terms of material, there’s two two basic flows. One is information flow. One is material flow, and then you have personnel flow. And if you’re thinking about salary, we’ll say, Oh, geez,
Randall Thompson 44:33
yeah, that’s you. That’s okay.
Dr. Jon 44:36
I was keeping up. So there’s three. Okay, um, yeah, and I think you need to think about each one of those separately, I agree and map them out in your facility. And, you know, if you’re going to map out material and information flow, probably the best way to do that is value stream mapping. In that will really allow you to understand Okay, in single page, how I’m scheduling my work. How much inventory there is in between each of the processes? How many how much labor value added labor? Yeah, I’m going to need to create and meet demand, okay, which is called, like the tack time. Okay. And, and then also, you know, you know how how you’re really gonna bring your what your supply chain looks like and how are you going to pull from the supplier and how your customers are going to pull from you. Okay, so there’s, there’s a whole bunch of different ideas there. And that that’s just manufacturing engineering essentially is all of what it is. But typically, what you want to have is, let’s say you got 30 SKUs, you want to have, you know, 30 30 supermarkets essentially that are ready for the customer to pull from. So you’re your customer, you say Have 30 customers, you have 30 SKUs, each customer is going to pull SKU one one per week or something like that. So if you if they pull from that finished goods supermarket, okay, there it is, it’s done, and I’m going to pull it, then that can create a signal going back upstream that says start to produce in what it’s producing is that SKU. That’s pretty sweet. If you can, if you can make your facility do that, what you’ll find out is that your inventory is going to be reduced. You’re, you’re in between each of the processes, because you’ll have what’s called FIFO lanes in between each of the processes, and you’re going to stop at a certain area and then everything upstream is going to stop it’s
Randall Thompson 46:42
FIFO first in first first in first out, right,
Dr. Jon 46:45
and you know, they’re used in manufacturing and they’re perfect for hemp processing facilities because, you know, you basically you want to define and manage and limit the amount of inventory sitting around right and because it’s
Randall Thompson 47:01
is that, you know, we’ve all heard of, you know, Justin time and konban. Is that the same stuff? Sure.
Dr. Jon 47:06
Yeah, it kind of is like konban supermarkets is what they’re typically called within, you know, value stream mapping. Yeah. And all they are is physical locations that you would put your inventory in. And you would always have a certain amount in there, you wouldn’t have, you wouldn’t let it build up. Now what happens is if you have process A and process B, in process B is really slow. And process A is really fast, what will happen is there’ll be a huge buildup of inventory and processing and process B, right? So what you want to do is you want to balance those two, two processes out and basically within hemp processing, or hemp extraction, you’re always going to have a series of disparate processes that you’re trying to balance out with the right materials, the right equipment, the right material. flow the right information flow so that all the inventory is kept at a low, low enough level. This is the theory, it’s very hard to do in practice, you have to have a plan.
Randall Thompson 47:27
Dr. Jon 47:28
If you don’t have a plan, it will not be that way. It’ll be like, okay, you’re tripping over inventory. I know that a lot of people like they’ll, they’ll post pictures of, you know, an entire warehouse filled with, you know, like inventory. Well, that’s it like an accounting nightmare. That’s all this stuff is on your balance sheet, right? And it’s got to be valued there. And that can really, that can actually put you out of business.
Randall Thompson 48:31
Absolutely. And the big things that the reason that you would want more inventory, the reasons that you would have a spike is if all of a sudden you’ve got the ability to buy that inventory at a low rate, right? So it reduces your cost to have it on hand,
Dr. Jon 48:43
right? But there’s also cost of that inventory on hand to hold it in you You do not want to have it in your facility at the end of the year. You know,
Randall Thompson 48:50
you want to turn inventory turns are key and critical.
Dr. Jon 48:53
They really are so I mean that. I can’t tell you how important that is. It’s like it’s the lost the lost art of managing your balance sheet. In fact, when you’re in a processing or any type of, you know, manufacturing, it’s it’s all about controlling your inventory. Absolutely. You don’t you’re, you’re gonna find out that all your money is sitting in the inventory, and you’re wondering, where’s all my money go? Well, there it is. It’s tough.
Randall Thompson 49:20
It’s not just raw inventory when it first comes in from the farm or the manufacturer or whatever, right? You’ve got all of that inventory that starts there, but then it’s all along the process. And you can have many hundreds of thousands of dollars, not millions of dollars sitting in WIP, right? Work in Progress, right? That’s the hidden inventory that most people don’t even think about. Because, you know, well, I’ve got a little bit here, I’ve got a little bit here, a little bit here, a little bit here and each of those, and that adds up, right, and then you’ve got, you know, enough sitting over here on end and inventory and let’s say you built it, but they didn’t come. Right now. You’ve got Finished Goods that aren’t selling, right? That’s no turn. That’s bad. That’s bad. That’s really bad. Yeah. So the whole just in time idea, or konban supermarkets really allow you to build what people want. Right? And it’s, it’s good, it’s good and minimize the the whip and the raw inventory right along the way,
Dr. Jon 50:19
right. And your facilities have a huge impact on that. You know, so you can have, you know, the last year moving around inventory, the better, right, so, you want to design your facility, if at all possible. Sometimes it’s impossible because you’re working within an existing footprint, or you want to util utilize some existing structure, you want to try to try to basically eliminate the movement of inventory around because if you add it all up, it turns out that that those are huge. Those are huge non value added steps, right. And that’s going to be a part of your, basically a part of your cost of goods, reduce your gross margin, which is going to reduce your bottom line. It’s gonna reduce your cash flow and reduce the cash flow, you’re gonna reduce your value of your company.
Randall Thompson 51:04
Absolutely. And it’s our job to help you grow your business profitably. Yeah. So I remember a business that I was running and I have lots of revenue. I just didn’t realize I was losing 10 cents for every dollar I made. So the more revenue I was bringing in, the more money I was losing. I hate it when that happened. I know, right? Like, oh, that was many, many moons ago. Right? It was a very good learning experience, but very expensive. Yeah.
Dr. Jon 51:30
One thing that we should I know we’re kind of jumping around here a little bit. I remembered something about storage facilities, okay, for for your, you know, for your hemp. Okay. You want to typically with your building, you want to have high enough you want to have high enough ceiling.
Randall Thompson 51:45
I was going to go there because a lot of people don’t have the height of ceilings thatwe have.
Dr. Jon 51:49
Well, if Okay, if you want to make sure that we have a calculator, in fact, we’ll go over that calculator next next week. Yeah, for like how much you would Be able how much hemp, you’d be able to put onto a pallet rack, okay? Okay, and then how high and the number of number of pounds that you’d be able to store. Okay, so I can give you some numbers here, but just suffice it to say that it has to do a lot to do with your bulk density. So if you have your materials so if you have a really like ground powder powdery, you’re going to be able to start more per unit area than if it’s just, you know, like hemp stocks, right? Sure. So, there’s some assumptions that you need to make, but everything being equal, you want to make sure that you have, say, a high ceiling, you know, and so that you can stack your hemp up, yes, on the incoming side of it. So and typically, you don’t want to have like, you know, 100 days or 200 days worth of inventory there to run through. What you want to have is you want to go to your suppliers and you want to say hey, look, you you you just store that at your farm, and I’ll take it in here at you know, maybe if you’re doing a ton a day I want five tons a week in and then you’re only paid for five tons a week? And then that also reduces that improves your cash flow. Right? Sure. So and I’m sure a lot of hemp farmers would be happy to, you know, deliver on a schedule.
Randall Thompson 53:14
Oh, absolutely. So, Hey, good inventory tie into that. Yeah. And make sure that when you get these giant industrial racks, if they go up to the ceiling, make sure your forklift lifts that high.
Dr. Jon 53:26
Yeah, that’s right. And that you have enough room to turn around. And those Yeah, in between there. So you can buy the right type of forklift too where you don’t have, you know, doesn’t need a wide usually a low very wide radius. So you can put the pallet racks closer together. But, you know, we have different models for how much you can add into that, you know, in terms of how much you can store so I just want to let you know, we’ll go over that next week. It’ll be a lot of fun. And, you know, we’ll go over the calculator,
Randall Thompson 53:57
the calculator is gonna be great.
Dr. Jon 53:58
We’re just gonna come up with all kinds of Weird scenarios.
Randall Thompson 54:01
I want to see the pretty graph.
Dr. Jon 54:02
What if you have a bulk density of you know, one 100 pounds per cubic inch? Yes, that would be you know,
Randall Thompson 54:13
and I do know that you know, in the big oven that we have, yeah, the Big Gemco. Yeah, you want to make popcorn? We do. Yeah, we do. We have a calculator to compute how much popcorn and the volume of the popcorn.
Dr. Jon 54:25
We should probably do that because we should probably do that before we stick 100 pounds of popcorn in there.
Randall Thompson 54:32
Yeah, probably. Yeah, it’s all dense. Why does that look like it got hailed on from the inside.
Dr. Jon 54:39
So we have this, we have this very large v mixer. That’s a it’s manufactured by a company called Gemco and we we have placed some boilers on it so it’ll go very hot. And of course, you know, it’s a mixer, so we can we could probably do popcorn in it. So we’re gonna do that someday. Just really wanted to do yeah, we’re gonna do it. Are we gonna do that Jared? Oh yeah, we’re gonna do it. So just YouTube stuff, right? I mean, this is how we have fun with, with life and everything.
Randall Thompson 55:08
So Instagram, YouTube, Facebook. Oh, check us out. We got a lot of resources on there. So shout out to social media. Thank you for being here, guys. This is awesome. Jared, you’re doing you do a great job. The whole team does a great job right? We’re here so we rock. Okay, so we covered a lot of stuff today. Yeah. And next week, we’re going to do calculators, right. Anything that we missed on facilities?
Dr. Jon 55:35
yeah, I would encourage people to, to go to our website, go to our blog. There’s a we wrote a blog article on this. And we also have a checklist that you can download for utilities. It’s just kind of a very basic one page 4050 item checklist. Just go through that checklist. It’s not comprehensive. Okay, but it’ll get you it’ll get you there. You know, so go there, download it, see what you think. Share with share with your friends and company shot us out.
Randall Thompson 56:08
So, go to extraktLAB with a K just like the T shirt, right here, extraktLAB.com and then go to the blog, go click on the blog and then go What is that called the hemp starter? What is what it was seven questions.
Dr. Jon 56:23
Oh yeah seven questions for startups
Randall Thompson 56:25
for hemp startups or something like that. And that will get you to the the blog article that Dr. Jon was talking about. And also it will get you that download. It’ll allow you to get download. If you have specific questions, sign up. We’ve got CBD jam sessions that are going on all the time. You guys are really keeping our team busy. Oh my gosh. And they last 20 minutes, no pressure, no hype, no nothing. We’re there to answer your questions. You know, obviously we can, you know, talk a lot about processing and facilities and move around and get get deep and find out where you’re struggling. and what we might have that might help you out So good stuff.
Dr. Jon 57:05
Good stuff. Yeah, we got some we’ve been publishing guides to Oh, yeah. And then we’ve really been focusing in on FAQs. So you know what one of the things that we get, like questions from you guys like I, and some of them are really, really good there. So we’ve been we’ve been basically I’ve been kind of going through there and typing out all the answers to those FAQs. And some of them are, some of them are just I just got too detailed on and they just go, I’ve got lost and so they got to editors.
Randall Thompson 57:36
I can’t even imagine you’re getting lost
Dr. Jon 57:38
in the details. But But other than that, I mean it. We should be publishing those pretty soon. And so those will be you know, there’ll be a dictionary for you guys to take a look at.
Randall Thompson 57:50
Yeah, it’ll be a really good more of an encyclopedia, I would say of frequently asked questions. So they’re going to be there we’ll have our calculator calculator library. We’re going to talk about that and walk through next week. So looking forward to having you here for that. The guides that we have available on our site right now are the advanced extraction guide, the distillation guide. We have several other resources, lots of white papers. Oh my gosh,
Dr. Jon 58:19
yeah, you hear all my, my negativity. I’m really stirring the pot. You definitely. Okay, whatever.
Randall Thompson 58:29
You must be an analytical chemist or something. Because they do stir the pot. Alright. Michael, thank you. Thank you, Jeremiah. Lots of shout outs and really good. I appreciate you being here. Looking forward to you next week. Invite your friends. Congratulations again to Dee Parker. Go watch a lot of our resources and courses are right on YouTube. So you can go to our YouTube channel and you can connect into that through some of our blogs. We get some of our blogs have videos and that kind of thing. So we are We’re good. Next week calculators. Anything else? We need to shout out?
Dr. Jon 59:06
No, I think that’s it. Thank you for being here on facilities. We’re good.
Randall Thompson 59:09
And we will see you next week. And thank you for being here.
Dr. Jon 59:14
Yeah. Awesome. See you carry Bye now.
James Hillstead 59:19
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